Yeah, that's what my mom said - she said that this country is gonna learn some things about itself and we're not gonna like um when the choice is between a black guy and a woman. My hope is that all the people who'll flat out refuse to vote for such folks will be counter balanced by those who wouldn't normally vote actually giving a damn cause there's a chance that a black person or woman might be president. But I think that's overly optimistic of me.

And I agree that Giuliani can't win. He ain't Republican enough for the vast majority of the country.